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Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Mike_kovacs on Nov 20, 2006, 02:08 PM
I have a Voigtlander Vitessa I'm getting start on.  Its the type with the selenium light meter.
 
I've unscrewed the plunger advance knob, removed the three accessory shoe screws, the four meter top cover screws.  Can anyone tell me if the ey
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Ethostech on Nov 21, 2006, 06:02 AM
Remove camera back.  In the top rim of the take-up spool there is a hole or cutaway.   Such is to allow a screwdriver to access the screw which is holding the top-plate at that side.
The eyepiece stays with the top-plate and does not remove.
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Ethostech on Nov 21, 2006, 06:08 AM
And Oh !  Put the meter screws back. Not necessary to remove.
Same with the flash shoe - but you may not be able to put it back until the top-plate is off.  
 
Your next question will be if the rangefinder module is intended to be tilted.  The ans
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Mike_kovacs on Nov 24, 2006, 04:37 PM
Thanks I got it off.  I didn't remove the screw inside the film compartment on the right side so it must be missing.
 
Now I just have to figure out how to get the advance unjammed and the shutter working again
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Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Ethostech on Nov 26, 2006, 09:36 AM
Mike - you should have defined your technical problems in your very first posting and saved yourself a lot of unnecessary work.  There is nothing under the top-plate by which you can address the issues which you now reveal.  You also need to define whethe
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Mike_kovacs on Nov 27, 2006, 12:08 AM
I can't move the plunger at all - it is completely jammed in the down position.
 
It is hardly a lot of work to get the top plate off - its necessary anyway to clean the RF.
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Ethostech on Nov 27, 2006, 01:52 AM
OK.  When you remove the frame-counter panel you will see the spring-loaded detent claw which is holding the plunger in its stored position.   You can logic its functionality from there.
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Albert on Dec 02, 2006, 01:48 AM
Using the advice above I was able to sort out the advance problems I was having. Thanks
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Mike_kovacs on Dec 04, 2006, 06:13 PM
Hey that's great somebody else fixed theirs too.
 
I think the problem with mine may be related to the release linkage.  It looks bent and I'll have to take the shutter out to get at it, and reconnect the shaft that fell out which connects to t
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Ethostech on Dec 05, 2006, 08:30 AM
Well Mike - you never did bother to tell us the Model of the Vitessa or to offer a word of thanks.
So good luck to you.  I'm outta this thread.
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Mike_kovacs on Dec 05, 2006, 12:20 PM
Excuse me but if you read the first post you'll note its the type with the selenium meter and a plunger.
 
If you read post #4 I did thank.
 
I've helped a lot of people out here and elsewhere with repair issues and I've never asked for an
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Mikel on Dec 06, 2006, 02:43 AM
I think it's time to decompress this thread and say that it's probably time to relax and understand that repairing older cameras is not a contact sport but more like THERAPY. If you don't get this or understand it you are probably more in need of TH
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Ethostech on Dec 07, 2006, 08:23 AM
Mr. Kovacs
 
The selenium cell and plunger is a common  feature of both the Vitessa T  (as with rigid mount interchangeble lens() and the Vitessa N (as with Barn-Doors bellows.   In respect to your cited problem the  mechanisms differ substantially.
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: 1979pete on Feb 10, 2008, 03:19 PM
I have a barn door type light meter equiped Voigtlander Vitessa I bought in 1956 in Germany while serving in the Army. Haven't touched it in about 35 years. Recently rediscovered it when going through old memorabelia. Camera is in beautiful condition ap
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Adrian on Feb 11, 2008, 04:32 PM
Pete,  
 
There is an article on fixing the Vitessa N's rangefinder, if you go to articles (third box from left) at the top of the forum header - though it sounds as though it isn't a barrel of fun to do!  
 
Values are always a nuisance a
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: 1979pete on Feb 11, 2008, 08:03 PM
Adrian:
 
I thank you very much for the info. I may give it a go, but will stop if it looks like I may damage the camera.
 
Pete
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: 1979pete on Feb 12, 2008, 06:56 PM
The article Adrian refered me to deals with range finder calibration and didn't really help me. I have no evidence of a split image. I believe something in the optics has fallen apart. Since I'm a beginner in camera repair I need basics like removal o
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: 1979pete on Feb 12, 2008, 06:58 PM
The article Adrian refered me to deals with range finder calibration and didn't really help me. I have no evidence of a split image. I believe something in the optics has fallen apart. Since I'm a beginner in camera repair I need basics like removal o
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Arnoldharris on Feb 17, 2008, 02:09 AM
Echostech,  
 
There are not hundreds of little ball bearings in the curved tube part of the shutter release double-interlock linkage, located on the bottom plate of the camera.  
 
To be precise, there are only 10 of them, at least on all
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Arnoldharris on Feb 17, 2008, 05:43 PM
Pete,
 
If you have a Vitessa-N, which has a barndoor optical unit comprising a fixed lens mounted onto the shutter, then the knob on top the kombi-plunger film advance and shutter cocking mechanism can be unscrewed.  
 
That knob typically
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: 1979pete on Feb 18, 2008, 07:51 PM
Mr. Harris:
Can you help me with how to get the top cover off exposing the range finder mechanism and what I might look for that is causing no visable split image or range finder activity?
 
1979pete
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Arnoldharris on Feb 19, 2008, 08:04 PM
Sure thing, Pete. But for starters, exactly which model Vitessa do you have, a Vitessa-T with interchangeable lenses, or one of the barndoor Vitessa models with fixed lenses?  
 
I know the Vitessa-T very well. I know the barndoor Vitessa mode
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Fmester on Feb 20, 2008, 02:01 PM
Arnold,
What is the, Voightlander Vitessa T Ersatzteilliste, AK 10157? If it a repair or parts manual would tou share it?
 
Thanks, Frank
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: 1979pete on Feb 20, 2008, 02:59 PM
Arnold:
I think my camera is an L. It is a barn door type with builtin light meter and has a range finder. I have been led to believe the range finder mechanism is same as a T. I appreciate your help.
1979pete
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Arnoldharris on Feb 20, 2008, 10:46 PM
Frank, Ersatzteilliste AK 10157 is an illustrated parts list supplemented with repair instructions for the film advance and shutter release double interlocks. I got it from a UK publisher some time ago. I will share the information, but I will need so
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Fmester on Feb 21, 2008, 01:59 PM
Thanks Arnold,
I just put my L back together. There was a piece of debris in the gears that advance the film. Now I have to do the top end, the viewfinder is clear (no focusing box). Everything else works great.
Yesterday I cleaned the shutter b
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Arnoldharris on Feb 22, 2008, 04:40 AM
Fmester,
 
I had not ever thought of using acetone to clean shutter blades. All that I had heard is that it is useful for cleaning light meter selenium cells. Instead, I have used naptha, because of advice I have received over the years that it
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Adrian on Feb 22, 2008, 09:34 AM
Arnold,  
 
Acetone will do the same job as naptha, and has the same plus points. However it attacks some plastics - those it does, it REALLY attacks - and removes many kinds of paint and surface finish. Horses for courses - in the right place([
Title: Voigtlander Vitessa Top Plate Removal
Post by: Arnoldharris on Feb 22, 2008, 01:06 PM
Fmester,
 
Based on what Adrian has written here, I think I would avoid using any solvent stronger than naptha for flushing unwanted and non-indigineous substances off shutter blades.  
 
For that matter, now that I have pulled out a non-fu