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Replacement focusing screen- slightly OT

Started by Rick_oleson, Dec 27, 2008, 04:14 PM

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Dennisdietz

Dec 27, 2008, 04:14 PM Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
High all and happy holidays!
 
I have a focusing screen question that is slightly off topic but I am guessing that many of you will have experience with this, so here goes...
 
It is very common for dSLR users that use old MF lenses to replace

Rick_oleson

Dec 27, 2008, 07:18 PM #1 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
All split image prisms will black out when the aperture drops below the design limit of the screen - this is usually around f/5.6 or f/8.  I can't speak specifically for the Nikon K3 screen.  Some screens are designed with a shallower prism wedge to del

Glenn

Dec 27, 2008, 09:12 PM #2 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Dennis,
I think you have been searching in most of the sites I personally know about - seen your post on one. Some of these sites seem to be inhabited by brain dead idiots, so I would ignore what you read. The telling word in your quoted source is

Dennisdietz

Dec 27, 2008, 09:12 PM #3 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Thanks Rick.  To be honest, any aftermarket or replacement screen is better than the stock screen on the D40.  Many people replace with $25 Chinese knockoffs.  These have the lowest quality of all screens used for replacement but are about twice as good

Dennisdietz

Dec 27, 2008, 09:36 PM #4 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Thank you Glenn for your input.  I would be buying this from focusingscreen.com which, by all accounts, is second best only to Katzeye, but the price is better.  I would not be buying from any of the countless ebay knockoff places with really cheap

Glenn

Dec 27, 2008, 09:38 PM #5 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Dennis,  
Your last post appeared as I was writing mine. I prefer the Canon screen, I have never liked nor used 'in anger' a microprism ring or microprism centre screen. You may find that a bit of experimentation will help you decide, the cost

Dennisdietz

Dec 27, 2008, 11:35 PM #6 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Thanks again Glenn.
 
May I ask what you mean by in anger?  As to experimentation, unfortunately at this time I am limited.  One screen will be about $75 (unless I buy the original screen locally and cut it down myself).  Two screens are out of the

Rick_oleson

Dec 28, 2008, 01:59 AM #7 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Typically, on any given screen, the split image and microprism will both black out at the same point, as the entire screen will be made to the same specification.  Eye placement is critical when using a split image screen, especially as you approa

Glenn

Dec 28, 2008, 05:54 PM #8 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Dennis,
By 'in anger' I mean in my job as a professional photographer, but obviously I have 'looked through' plenty of different screen types. Rick's last post says it all; eye placement can be very critical to get the most out of some sc

Dennisdietz

Dec 28, 2008, 07:01 PM #9 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Thanks again Rick and Glenn.  Searching around the net I found two things.  First, http://yipal.blogspot.com/2008/10/fitting-k3-focus-screen-to-d70s.html is

Glenn

Dec 28, 2008, 11:57 PM #10 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Dennis,
Found that blog a while ago - sound instructions and method - so you should have no problems. Coincidently; I nearly suggested earlier that you pick up a cheap second hand screen to play with, even if not perfect you will see what actually

Dennisdietz

Dec 29, 2008, 02:30 AM #11 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Thanks again.  
 
Near as I can tell from lots of internet searching, all the D40/50/60/70 screens are exactly the same size.  I have asked some forum acquaintances to double check this for me.
 
BTW, does anyone know what the EC-L is made o

Glenn

Dec 29, 2008, 03:34 PM #12 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
All modern fresnel screens are acrylic formulations. You will find that good quality wet & dry abrasive sheets - use dry -  are the best 'tool' for trimming down to final size. I am fortunate to have a miniature 50mm disc table sander - very cheap

Rick_oleson

Dec 31, 2008, 01:22 PM #13 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
It depends on how much you need to remove... for small adjustments I lay a flat file on the bench top and slide the screen on it edgewise, rotating 180 degrees periodically and checking often with a caliper to make sure it's staying square as I go.  A

Dennisdietz

Dec 31, 2008, 04:29 PM #14 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:18 AM by smf_adm
Thanks Glenn and Rick for the input and sizing tips.  I'm not to worried about trimming the screen as I've been a professional furniture maker for a long time and much of my work involved hand cut joinery, inlays, etc.  My biggest thought is about