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Tips needed for filling engravings

Started by Fallisphoto, Jan 04, 2012, 08:27 AM

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Mr_flibble

Jan 04, 2012, 08:27 AM Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
I'm currently working on restoring a Voigtl?nder Brillant for someone.  
The biggest job will be the 2 small brass plates on the shutter with the speeds, brand name, aperture and focus distance. These were oxidized and had major paint loss.  
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Cooltouch

Jan 06, 2012, 05:56 AM #1 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
Speaking of filling in engraving on guns, I've seen white-out used.  The only problem with white-out, though is it will soil and turn a brownish gray color if it comes into contact much with finger dirt.  But it's easy enough to remove and replace

Mr_flibble

Jan 06, 2012, 07:23 AM #2 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
Cheers,
 
The testor's enamel black paint is taking a while to cure apparently. First attempt last wednesday to take off the excess white paint took off most of the black paint as well
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Paul Ron

Jan 06, 2012, 02:53 PM #3 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
The problem with using enamel paints is they scratch n chip easily. Powder coat is the paint of choice on cameras.
 
There is a paint crayon used by engravers in sign shops that has the consistancy of crayon but hardens like paint n doesn't yellow(

Mr_flibble

Jan 09, 2012, 08:31 AM #4 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
Hmm.. Enamel and crayon don't seem to mix very well. The black enamel wipes off like it was an uncured coat after applying the crayon.  
 
So now the plan is black enamel paint base coat, fill in the engravings with acryllic white paint and wipe

Br1078lum

Jan 10, 2012, 03:08 AM #5 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
Rick, would it make the paint better if you baked it for an hour?  Or is this on a piece that is not seperate from the camera body?

Mr_flibble

Jan 10, 2012, 07:02 AM #6 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
Yeah, they are just attached by screws. I've had both tags over a heat source, but the enamel just becomes/stays soft from the heat. I think I need to cure it under UV lighting or something.
 
Curses!

Glenn

Jan 10, 2012, 05:46 PM #7 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
Unfortunately most modern acrylic paints do not stove properly, and I have found the modern day 'environment friendly' Testor's products to be pretty crap in that respect. Unfortunately you have made the biggest blunder the DIY restorer can make -

Paul Ron

Jan 11, 2012, 01:36 AM #8 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
BTW the crayon I was refering to is used to fill the engravings not to paint the part.  
 
It comes in an assortment of colors and is relatively cheap. It hardens to paint, not wax based, it is actually oil based paint.
 
Go to a local sign s

Mr_flibble

Jan 11, 2012, 07:55 AM #9 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
Thanks Glenn and Paul,
 
In my defence, the plates was pretty much unreadable anyway. Giving it a fresh coat of any type of paint after cleaning was an improvement according to the owner ;)  
 
I will look into getting a proper enamel paint t

Gauntlet71

Jun 03, 2012, 03:55 PM #10 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
I've had great success (and fun) with Lacquer Stiks from Micro Tools. Rub on and wipe off turning your tissue or cloth a couple of times. I bought all the colours except gold and they match my Rollei and Yashica TLRs perfectly.

Paul Ron

Jun 07, 2012, 02:17 PM #11 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
Those are the crayons I told you about that sign makers use to fill engravings. they are great to work with n look really nice when restoring speed n F-stop rings.

Gauntlet71

Jun 07, 2012, 05:24 PM #12 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
I totally agree Paul. I like to fill in the little red dot on the rings of folding cameras. It's this kind of detailing that I enjoy, like restoring vintage cars but on a kinder budget and size! YS.

Mr_flibble

Jun 08, 2012, 04:28 PM #13 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
I have a Lacquer Stik (tm) from Micro Tools, already used it with some success on the logo of my Rolleiflex old Standard.  
 
I had no luck with it on the Brillant engravings, wiping off the the white stuff in the engravings together with the over

Fallisphoto

Jun 23, 2012, 01:03 AM #14 Last Edit: Sep 20, 2024, 01:10 AM by smf_adm
Testers is not a good paint for cameras. It is designed to stick to plastic, not metal. You need an automotive grade enamel or an epoxy appliance paint. If you use the enamel, you need to bake it to make it harden.